facing dental implants.. upper jaw, doctors say bone grafting or something like that, teeth were removed long ago, gums have atrophied... who's had them done, how did it go, was it painful, were there any complications? Please don't recommend doctors.. Can't read a single thread, 90% of it is advertising for doctors and clinics..
I've been missing my upper 6th tooth for a long time, with only 1mm of bone left. At the consultation, they told me I'd need a lot of bone grafting, meaning it's a complicated operation and there's no guarantee we'd achieve the necessary bone volume. They quoted me around 100,000 for all this (in the Urals), while the average income in our city is 15,000-25,000, so it's very expensive. For now, I've put this issue on the back burner. I'm getting by without the tooth, but my other 6th teeth are also on their last legs—just thinking about what lies ahead is daunting.
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A bruise appeared under the eye after the bone graft procedure. The swelling moved across the cheek and eventually resulted in this. The digestive system was a bit off for a day following the antibiotics. Other inconveniences included the stitches (which were noticeable) and the need to maintain a soft-liquid diet to avoid damaging the gum stretched over the graft site (otherwise, it would all be in vain).
It hurts - it doesn't hurt. It doesn't really matter anymore. The main thing is that everything heals properly.
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I had the upper six done. The implant was placed quickly, along with a sinus lift at the same time, faster than treating a cavity. When I got home, I applied something cold and didn't even take antibiotics, just used a healing gel on the gum. Nothing hurt. Everything healed, and after three months, I had the actual tooth placed. Absolutely no complications at all, even though I was prepared for them.
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In South Korea, they always perform a sinus lift.
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I had two teeth done, it wasn't painful - they gave me sedation via an IV injection. I could hear the implantologist when he told me to open and close my mouth etc. When I came round, I thought nothing had even started yet. In the end, I spat out bone fragments and went home an hour later. Then I took painkillers for a couple of days. Everything healed well.
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And what answers are you expecting, author? This is a routine procedure; an implantologist places implants for six patients in a single day, and it's not even certain that it's just one per person. It's something special for you. As with any surgical intervention, there are specific limitations. There are contraindications. Go to a specific doctor and ask all your questions there.
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How is that sedation into the vein? Sedation is laughing gas. And general anaesthesia these days also comes in the form of a mask with gas. General anaesthesia via the vein is only practised in abdominal surgeries; it's not necessary in dentistry.
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I'm waiting for reviews from people who've actually been through this, because everywhere it's just advertising... I've already spoken with doctors, they tell me how rosy everything is, for them it might be routine, but for me it's a terrible stress... and I need to mentally prepare myself or just give up and walk around without teeth (sobbing)
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Personally, why do I even need an implant? Because the last "very expensive and competent dentist" ruined my abutment tooth for a bridge. They fitted the bridge, and then it turned out that during the root canal treatment, they perforated the tooth wall. So, a big farewell to the new bridge, and consequently to the tooth as well. Damaging a healthy canine and the lateral incisor to serve as bridge supports is not an option—they've already messed up my premolar, which, to be fair, was already damaged but alive with its root intact. And you—it's just routine for you. They can't even properly extract a nerve. And now, implantation. Of course, I'm just hysterical now.
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I have 9 implants on the upper jaw, done in the first stage all at once under general anaesthesia, with a sinus lift and a lot of bone grafting, as well as the implants themselves. The swelling lasted for two weeks, and I couldn't sneeze; one stitch had to be redone three times because it kept coming apart due to some strain. My face was asymmetrical for about three weeks, my gums were swollen, and I couldn't wear the removable denture. Thirteen teeth had been removed. After three weeks, I adjusted the denture and managed to put it on, and a month later, I was holidaying in Cuba. The second stage was six months later. Taking impressions, fitting everything along with veneers on the lower and the remaining upper teeth went smoothly, under simple anaesthesia. It's been six years now. I'm as pleased as punch. I use an oral irrigator and get professional cleanings. The bridges are on temporary adhesive; the dentist thought it would be easier to remove them if needed without breaking them. It all cost a fortune, but the dentist was the best available, with awards in implantology. I had a fever after the first stage, but on the bright side, I lost weight splendidly since I was eating through a straw ;) Don't be afraid; it's just that when it's extensive, it doesn't happen often, but it doesn't last more than two weeks for anyone. And, by the way, I've become more careful with my words after such an investment in my jaw ;)
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Why are people so spineless?
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And how old are you?
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What stress are you talking about? It takes about forty minutes to place the bone graft (a bit bloody. Very bloody. And it feels like they're poking into your brain). Then two weeks of dietary restrictions, and afterwards you have to be careful not to disturb the gum. A few months later, another CT scan, and then, if all is well, the actual implantation. That part is actually quick and hardly noticeable.
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Yeah right. There is intravenous sedation and there is with gaseous drugs. In my case there was an anaesthetist the whole one and a half hours. They didn't remove the needle. And I was in a painless doze like that.
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After I looked into my ex's mouth and was horrified! He has no side teeth, neither upper nor lower, at least he has front ones, but nevertheless, he somehow chews food. I realised that even on... no need for those implants.
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Oh, I don't know... I lost my lower teeth back in school. Three clinics told me my bone was too thin and needed grafting, another one said my bones were fine, and yet another said – we'll install the thinnest ones, do the tests and come back. Well, they screwed in three of them right away. Nothing terrible, it didn't hurt by night. All good, they've taken well, I'm pleased.
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Yes, doctors are right; the state of Russians' teeth is catastrophic.
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Take Persen or Tenoten and go for it. Other people's experiences are just that—other people's experiences, and they vary. You will have your own.
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Because above the upper jaw there's the maxillary sinus, which can easily be damaged by an implant, leading to complications. And in your case, firstly it's a 4, you might as well write about a central incisor next, and secondly the timeframe is indeed short. You should at least not sign off as if you're a doctor or something. It's embarrassing for our medicine.
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Because above the upper jaw is the maxillary sinus, which can easily be damaged by an implant, leading to complications. In your case, firstly, it's the fourth tooth—you might as well write about the first one—and secondly, the timeframe is indeed short. You shouldn't even sign off as a doctor, should you? It's embarrassing for our medicine.
What's with the aggression??? I merely wrote that a sinus lift isn't always necessary for the upper jaw!!! One should take proper scans and consult an experienced doctor; otherwise, yes, they'll tell you to do anything just to squeeze extra money out of you. I repeat once again: a sinus lift is not always necessary for the upper jaw.
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I had implants placed in my upper and lower jaw to replace two teeth that had been missing since my youth. Bone grafting was performed. Before the procedure, I underwent tests and a 3D scan of my jaw so the doctor could determine the appropriate implant and bone augmentation. There's no need to be afraid of the anaesthesia—it was strong, and I didn't feel anything, just an unpleasant sound like asphalt being broken up. I didn't have to spit anything out because the assistant was nearby, helping the surgeon. At the very beginning, they held my head to prevent me from jerking it due to fear at the sound of the bone being drilled. Be sure to ask your doctor in advance what medication to take after the surgery, as the anaesthesia wears off in about 30 minutes. Once the gum is stitched up, they should take an X-ray immediately to check the implant placement.
Upon returning home, following the surgeon's advice, I took painkillers and then antibiotics. I also applied an ice bottle immediately to reduce the swelling (the surgeon had recommended preparing it in advance). The stitches were removed after a week; they didn't cause any discomfort and didn't come apart. Later, a gum former will be placed. After three months, a crown was fitted on the upper jaw, and one month later on the lower jaw. These are the typical healing times for implants in the jaws.
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You didn't even understand what I wrote. Read it a few more times, look up on Wikipedia what the maxillary sinuses look like and where they're located. Above which teeth. PS this is just fucking ridiculous, not a proper doctor.
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It's been 3 years, and everything is fine.
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Last year, I had two implants done on the top (5 and 6) and one on the bottom. Well, as is probably the case for everyone—at first, it's scary (and you don't really feel like it, let's be honest), but you go, start the procedure, and then it's just one step after another, I mean the stages. A lot depends on the dentist. The first one, as I understood, wasn't very experienced, but he did a good job—thank him. He took a long time and, to make sure everything was screwed in properly, as I understood, he was very cautious, took some extra scans (besides the CT), made some custom molds. But at least we managed without a sinus lift.
Another dentist did the lower one, and I immediately felt his experience and compared it to the previous dentist (at a different clinic). There, the same procedure went so quickly and skillfully that I thought something was wrong. But it's just that kind of dentist—he does this constantly and a lot, with huge experience. Then came months of waiting, the next stages, and now I'm so used to them that they feel like my own. Before that, I had bridges, and you can live with those too, but mine lasted 18 years. To replace them, they suggested grinding down the adjacent (perfectly healthy) teeth again, but I already know that those teeth aren't viable—everything under the bridges had deteriorated.
Don't be afraid to get it done; nowadays, these are routine procedures.
Regarding the pain – it was uncomfortable particularly because before all this, the remnants of one tooth had to be extracted (that's exactly where the bridge was previously placed). There was a bit of an issue there, but again, thanks to the dentist – he managed to pull it out without cutting the gum. And those two upper implants were also somewhat tedious. Not sharp pain, but just tedious to have placed (like any operation under local anaesthesia – it doesn't hurt exactly, but you 'feel everything'). However, the lower implant (the one done at the other clinic) the dentist placed as if it were child's play. But I think it also depends on the implantation site; I gathered that it's more complicated on the top.
Afterwards, I took what the dentist prescribed (antibiotics and so on), but for pain relief, I took 'Arcoxia'. I really liked its effect; indeed, within a few minutes, the pain subsides. You only take one tablet a day, and that's enough. Of course, you must consult your doctor about this. I just preferred this medication over the painkiller the dentist prescribed (Arcoxia was recommended at the pharmacy as a good option after oral surgery).
By the way, after everything was done, one of the crowns became loose. But I was warned that it rarely happens, though it does occur. I went back, and they adjusted it (they make a hole in the crown and tighten it through that...). So don't be afraid of that either – things happen, but they can be fixed.
Wishing you luck and good health!
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Because above the upper jaw is the maxillary sinus, which can easily be damaged by an implant, leading to complications. In your case, firstly, it's the 4th tooth—you might as well write about the 1st—and secondly, the timeframe is indeed short. You shouldn't really sign off as a doctor, should you? It's embarrassing for our medicine.
For the 4th, in my opinion, they don't do a sinus lift. The 5th and 6th are risky; they require bone augmentation there.
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Could someone please explain to me, as I can't find precise information, which teeth exactly are above the maxillary sinus? I have a black cyst on my second tooth and I'm afraid it might require either an implant or a post.
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And why aren't you considering a crown? Go for a consultation with a doctor, and they will tell you everything; it's their job to know where the sinuses are.
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There is no sinus above the second tooth. Bone grafting is not performed.
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What about above the fourth tooth?
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I had 5 implants placed in one session. Today is already the third day. It hardly hurts, and the swelling has gone down. But I must say, the process of placing them is terribly unpleasant. You feel everything, even under local anaesthesia. I wouldn't have done it under general anaesthesia. There are many nerves in the face, so it's important to have communication with the doctor. Under general anaesthesia, anything could happen.
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Modern anaesthesia allows you not to think about pain at all. As for the sensations after surgery – you'll just take some painkillers for a couple of days and that's it. The main thing is to follow the doctor's instructions, remember to care for the wound, and everything will be okay. It's also very important whose hands you end up in and what type of implant is placed. I had a Nobel done three years ago on the lower jaw, and everything's fine. If there are indications and no contraindications, then don't even think twice, go for it.
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Hello! Regarding dental implants, I can certainly say go for it, but what difference does it make whether it's in Russia or not? I think flying to another country purely for dental implants is a bit silly, and we have very good clinics and specialists here—you just need to look around. I personally really like the Centre for Aesthetic Dentistry; they use the latest technology and provide excellent customer service, so you can confidently reach out to them. Here's a link: http://axiomadental.ru/ – you can check it out and then decide whether to contact them or not.
Nowadays it's really hard to find a good doctor. Unfortunately even getting a tooth pulled has become a problem((( Everywhere it's just ads and connections.. I myself couldn't get a tooth extracted for 2 months!!! I can't even wrap my head around it.. how is that even possible. I don't want to do advertising and all that.. but I got lucky.. I met one doctor who actually helped me. And I'm happy that now I have no pain and suffering. My work colleague got two implants from Fomenkov Ilya Sergeevich. Also insanely happy. Unfortunately, I don't even know where he practices now. Maybe there's info about him somewhere on forums.. Good luck to you!!! And most importantly, good health!
Two years ago, I visited a dental clinic where they strongly recommended that I get two implants. I agreed because the upper right side of my jaw was missing teeth. The result is excellent; now I even forget that I have implants there. No discomfort in my mouth at all!
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I'm in the process... About a month ago, I had two implants on the lower right side, and two days ago, three implants on the lower left. With added bone material—a powder and a membrane... Later, bridges will be attached to them. I understand that the post-surgery sensations depend on the area of the affected surface. For me, it's from the third tooth all the way to the end of the gum, so it's tough. The surgery itself isn't pleasant, of course, but it's not painful under local anaesthesia. However, from the moment the anaesthesia wears off and for two days, it's hard. Especially the first day. Swelling, a sore tongue, a sore throat, and sore gums—from one dose of Ketorol to the next. This is all normal. For me, the hardest part is the prickly stitches; they're very uncomfortable, rubbing and irritating. I cover them thickly with Solcoseryl, enough to completely hide the stitches. By the third day, you start to feel human again. It's expensive. It takes a long time. But the result is worth it. And with just 1-2 teeth, there's nothing to worry about, in my opinion.
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And I've heard that after a sinus lift, complications may arise in about 3 to 5 years, such as sinusitis, for example. I would appreciate an expert's opinion.
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. I wouldn't advise cheap implants, choose a doctor you trust.
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Good afternoon. On November 15th, I had two Nobel implants placed in my upper jaw, along with a sinus lift. The procedure was painless, but it was quite frightening due to the sounds of the bone being drilled, and it was unpleasant having my mouth full of blood.
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After the anaesthesia wore off, pain set in. Doctor's prescriptions: Sumamed, 1 tablet; Nise for pain; Desal, 1 tablet; Troxevasin, 1 tablet; Solcoseryl dental paste on the suture after every meal. Do not sneeze. Do not blow your nose, sleep on a high pillow. Swelling appeared almost immediately. Half of the face and the gum are swollen as well.
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The second and third days were the toughest. The swelling increased, I thought my cheek would just burst! There was even swelling on my eye. A temperature of 37.2°C lasted for two days. I ate only pureed food. After taking Nemisil, which wasn't prescribed to me, it got better; the swelling started to decrease and the pain subsided. Today is the sixth day after the operation. The swelling is almost invisible, the pain is dull and bearable. All medications have been taken. I'm doing rinses with Miramistin and applying Solcoseryl to the suture. I had an appointment with the implantologist. I was concerned that the part of my cheek where there are no teeth was stitched to the gum. It's very uncomfortable; I can't open my mouth or smile, and my cheek is constantly pulled towards the gum where the suture is. The doctor said it's normal, that it's part of the technique... He said the cheek tissue will lift up, and I'll be able to slip my tongue in there. Also, something white was sticking out of the suture... The doctor examined it, poked around, removed the white thing (it looked like a piece of cloth), and said everything is fine. Come back in two weeks to have the stitches removed. Now I'm sitting here wondering, is everything really okay? Has anyone else experienced this with their cheek?
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Don't be afraid, the main thing is to choose a competent doctor; that's probably the most important part! As for me, I have an implant from the Miss brand, and everything went without complications. I visit the dentist every six months to have my teeth checked, and the rest of the time, I don't even notice it.
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A week and a half ago, I had two Straumann implants placed—both lower fives on each side, done in one day. I had been missing these teeth for 20 years (the permanent teeth didn’t develop roots after the baby teeth were removed). In such cases, bone grafting is usually necessary, but after reviewing the CT scan, the dentist said it was possible to place short implants without grafting. The procedure itself was tolerable—more frightening than painful—but the recovery was quite rough. I had the surgery on a Sunday evening and went to work on Monday, which was a mistake. If possible, it’s better to take a couple of days off for recovery. The first few days were tough: swelling, difficulty opening my mouth properly, and constant pain relief (Nimesil). By the end of the second day, things started to ease noticeably. Interestingly, the left and right sides felt completely different, with different sutures (and different implants). The left side hurt and swelled more initially but healed faster, while the right side still aches when chewing. For the first week, I ate not just soft but liquid food—everything blended or baby food. Of course, having both sides done at once is challenging, but I’d rather get it over with in one go, and it’s better to take antibiotics just once.
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I am 57 years old. Today is the eighth day since the repositioning of the upper left 6th and 7th teeth plus a sinus lift. The first two days, my cheek swelled up and I had a huge bruise. I immediately started taking Ketonal, antibiotics, and antibacterial medications, rinsing with chlorhexidine, and from today, I'm taking vitamins, calcium D3 Nikomed, and omega-3. So far, I only regret having it done; I wish I had chosen something else. And I'm very afraid of having the stitches removed. There was significant swelling and bruising, and my gum is still swollen and warm, although I haven't had a fever.
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Now that's an example))) I'm genuinely impressed by you))) yesterday I got two implants, swelling...went online to read - horrors everywhere, but you've really cheered me up!
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Olga, good afternoon. Could you tell me on which day the gum swelling went down for you? It's been 9 days for me. But my gum is red with severe swelling. I'M WORRIED....
Please don't recommend doctors.. Can't read a single thread, 90% of it is advertising for doctors and clinics..