Can anyone share their experience? I've been trying to get pregnant for 2 years, finally started addressing the issue, was recommended a good gynecologist, they said everyone gets pregnant with her. She immediately ordered hormone tests. I came back with the results, and she delivered the verdict: very low AMH (1.13), basically menopause has started, only IVF with donor eggs. Ultrasound results on days 7, 14, and 21 of my cycle also confirmed this... She advised retesting AMH; if it's even slightly higher, something can be done; if not, only reproductive specialists.... After crying and freaking out, I went to another doctor, the latter calmed me down, said everything can be adjusted, didn't look at the AMH, said not to retest for now, prescribed Duphaston from day 15 to 26 of my cycle + folic acid. Now I'm wondering, which one should I believe and is there hope for a natural pregnancy?
Folic acid won't help you get pregnant; it's needed for the proper development of the fetus. I would take Duphaston, but if it doesn't work within 3 months, then go to the first doctor and follow her advice. How old are you? Do you still have time to "try"?
Гость
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Не согласна! Мне врач говорила, что что бы повысить вероятность наступления беременности фольку нужно пить...
Гость
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Почитайте интернет хотя бы о свойствах фолиевой кислоты. Основная функция при беременности - участие в закладке и развитии нервной трубки. Учите матчасть (с)
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Well, since you don't trust doctors, here's your internet, smarty-pants: The latest research claims that women who take daily multivitamins containing folic acid have a greater chance of pregnancy. Folic acid has long been known for its properties in preventing fetal development abnormalities. Now scientists have also established the fact that folic acid directly contributes to conception itself. A study involving over 18,000 women showed that multivitamins—and especially folic acid—improve female fertility. Those who took vitamins regularly had a 40% lower risk of facing the problem of egg immaturity—one of the main causes of female infertility. Annually, approximately 150,000 couples experience difficulties conceiving a child. The main reason for such sad statistics is the absence or irregularity of ovulation in women. Folic acid helps you get pregnant! In their study, scientists analyzed the pregnancy attempts of 18,500 women. Statistics were taken over a nine-year period. 13% of couples had difficulty conceiving, and one in five women from these 13% were diagnosed with ovulation problems. Then the scientists turned to analyzing the diets of these women: whether they took multivitamins and, if so, for how long and in what dosage. As it turned out, those who took multivitamins, including folic acid, six times a week, were 40% less likely to have ovulation problems compared to those who didn't take a single pill. Those who took multivitamins 3-5 times a week had a 30% lower risk of an anovulatory cycle, while those who took 1-2 pills a week were no different from women who didn't take vitamins at all.
Гость
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.....принимавшие 1-2 таблетки в неделю ничем не отличались от женщин, не принимавших витамины вовсе.[/quote] Господи боже мой. Где тут сказано, что именно фолиевая кислота повышает фертильность? Я ученый, я тот человек, который испытывает различные субстанции перед тем, как из них делают (или не делают) лекарственные препараты. Статья, на которую вы ссылаетесь, 2006 года (а не новейшие исследования). Цитирую "He said it was still unclear how folic acid - the synthetic form of folate, a B vitamin - worked in securing pregnancy.
But research last year suggested it might help embryo survival, he added." Эмбриону она помогает, а не забеременеть!
Гость
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If I were in your shoes, I would try with the second one. Your AMH isn’t very low yet, and really, not everyone focuses on it—some doctors say it’s more important to track FSH and LH. My doctor said that even with an AMH of 0.00001, women have gotten pregnant. The issue here, as I understand it, is more about stimulation. You can stimulate ovulation and try to conceive naturally. If that doesn’t work, then you can consider reproductive technologies... But overall, don’t despair, and here’s something important I’ll tell you: hormones can deteriorate VERY significantly due to stress. Believe it and stop tormenting yourself. Relax. There are people with worse hormone levels than yours, and they still give birth. My friend had a baby at 40, after 3 IVF attempts and one miscarriage. She stopped worrying about all of it and simply got pregnant naturally with her husband. Keep your chin up!
Гость
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Oh my God. Where does it say that folic acid specifically increases fertility? I'm a scientist, I'm the person who tests various substances before they're made (or not made) into medications. The article you're referencing is from 2006 (not the latest research). I quote: 'He said it was still unclear how folic acid - the synthetic form of folate, a B vitamin - worked in securing pregnancy. But research last year suggested it might help embryo survival, he added.' It helps the embryo, not getting pregnant! Dear scientist, I advise you to read and stay updated on new breakthroughs in medicine and research, instead of clinging to what was 9 YEARS AGO!!!!!! Science doesn't stand still, shouldn't you know that? That's exactly why our medicine is the most backward in the world, looking at scientists like you. You know, during the 1939-1945 war, heroin was the main painkiller... everything flows, everything changes...
I'm 30, but I never expected to hear that menopause is already starting :(( I mentioned folic acid in that context just to indicate what I was prescribed :))
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Thanks for the support! The second doctor and info from various forums are calming and giving me hope, but the first doctor, with all her experience, was so categorical (I'd even say inappropriate) in telling me that a natural pregnancy is hopeless—I'm still in shock :(
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In the past, when people actively consumed sorrel, nettle, lamb's quarters, dill, and other readily available greens, the average daily intake of folic acid in populations was about 1mg, and sometimes even more. Naturally, eggs matured normally, and pleural conditionally-sterile effusions were rare, as was the detection of blast cell atypia (in the absence of other deficiency conditions).
If heroin was used on some fronts, then on others it was morphine and ethanol; this only suggests the necessity of selling heroin in pharmacies instead of metamizole, methadone, and tramadol. If in 1939-1945, "2x2" equaled 4, there's no need to force the theory of relativity into the formula "2x2=5," otherwise too many "bubbles" will form in the economy. By the way, research in the 2010s shows a trend toward a renaissance of cannabinoids in medicine.
Гость
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Ну попробуйте пол года как вторая врач говорит, а если уж нет, то к первой...
Гость
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Don't get upset, in any case, folic acid is beneficial when planning a pregnancy, and I don't think it will do any harm. But can Duphaston actually help me? And generally, why might my AMH be so low at the age of 30?
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овамарин вам попить надо и ко 2ому доктору ходить не стоит, что значит скорректировать амг....он с каждой овуляцией становится только меньше, поэтому вам нужно идти срочно в центр репродукции, а дюфастон пейте и фольку тоже...но это кам никак не поможет забеременеть
Гость
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Run away from such a doctor! With AMH above one, only IVF??? They look at the overall levels of AMH, FSH, and the number of antral follicles on ultrasound. Don't waste time and go for IVF, and everything will work out with your own eggs. I succeeded with an AMH of 0.5.
Наталья
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У меня АМГ 0.08 - две беременности самостоятельно!
Наталья
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I'll share my story in more detail. At age 30, my periods became irregular. But I started focusing on fertility around 35 (my AMH was 0.17, antral follicles were few—1-2, LH and FSH were normal). My doctor's recommendation was to lose excess weight. I spent about a year losing weight. During this time, LH and FSH started to rise, and AMH gradually decreased to 0.08. Once my weight normalized, my husband and I went for mud therapy treatment in Saki (Crimea). After the sanatorium, I had two months of perfect cycles, but in the third month—LH-19, FSH-47. I started taking Femoston 2/10 and GOT PREGNANT that same month! I breastfed my daughter until she was 1 year and 9 months—and GOT PREGNANT naturally a second time! WITHOUT IVF, without donor eggs, with an AMH of 0.08 (and it's still the same now!). Dear future mothers, find a good doctor who doesn't push you toward IVF. Low AMH doesn't mean anything! I visited other doctors, went to AltraVita in Moscow (naturally, there were many tears—almost menopause, they said... they told me only donor eggs... I thought about a donor—in short, it was HORRIFIC what I read and heard about this notorious AMH). Thank you to my doctor, who knew it's a very indirect indicator and was right!
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Наталья
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Наталья,а Вы не скажите в каком именно санатории вы отдыхали в Крыму?Просто у меня тоже проблемы с низким АМГ,а мне 26 лет...не хочу верить...хотелось бы хоть как-то попытаться
Иришка
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Я не могла забеременеть 4 года. АМГ был 0,61. Все остальное в норме. По узи овуляция иногда была. Предлогали ЭКО. В итоге сделали диагностическую лапороскопию и гистероскопию. Обнаружили и удалили очаги эндаметриоза в районе брюшины и феброму на одном яичнике. После операции АМГ был 0,4. Через три месяца я забеременела сама без ЭКО. Причем яйцеклетку дал яичник с которого удалили фиброму (отслеживали по УЗИ). Низкий АМГ это следствие каких-то проблем с яичниками. Нужно искать причину.
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Наталья
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Девочки у меня амг 0,14 можно ли забеременеть самостоятельно
Елена
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And if I may, I'm 27 and desperately want a child.
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AMH 0.3, but FSH and all other hormones are normal. Two independent pregnancies.
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Natalia, you have no idea how much hope your story gives! Please tell us more, what else did your doctor recommend besides taking Femoston, what else did you do?
With a similar situation, I took Aloes Compound pills for 4 months. And on the 5th, I got pregnant. Well, obviously, it all worked out. So much for low AMH.
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I am 36 years old. I want a little boy; I have two daughters. The youngest is 10 years old. I took Regulon for about three years, with short breaks. Then we decided to have a baby, but it’s not happening. I took Duphaston for 3 months from day 14 to day 25 of my cycle, which is 24 days long, thinking it would help with getting pregnant. After I stopped, my cycle became irregular—my period sometimes comes on day 16, sometimes on day 20. I got my hormones tested, and everything is normal except for AMH. This AMH result has really thrown me off—it’s 0.17. I’m heartbroken.
Наталья
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Hello again, girls with low AMH (mine is 0.08)! I continue my story.
My first natural pregnancy happened in 2012 after treatment in Crimea, in Saki, with mud baths at the Pirogov Sanatorium—doctor Pipine O.V. (I was 37 years old—before that, we had been trying since I was 28, and nothing worked). In February 2015, I got pregnant a second time, again naturally!
I had my AMH tested multiple times after giving birth in our city (Nizhny Novgorod) at different labs (Gemotest, Gemokhelp, Nika-Spring)—it hasn’t changed; it’s still 0.08, just as it was. According to ultrasounds, everything is the same—diminished ovarian reserve.
I breastfed my eldest daughter for 1 year and 9 months (my ovaries were resting, and they say that’s good for the pituitary gland too). After that, I managed to track ovulation (it happens very rarely for me)—I used ovulation tests and went for ultrasounds to monitor the follicle (a skilled specialist can always tell when the follicle will rupture). And intercourse is a must—either the day before ovulation or on the day of ovulation! And so, the second miracle happened (according to ignorant doctors)—the gynecologists I know in Nizhny Novgorod, based on such a terrible AMH diagnosis, would only recommend IVF with a donor egg, but they didn’t for me!!!
Don’t worry about AMH—the most important thing is to try to track ovulation! Also, right after ovulation, I inserted Utrogestan 100 mg in the morning and evening. And when the test showed pregnancy, I increased it to 200 mg twice a day (when you’re not pregnant, insert it for 10 days and then stop—your period will come). This is also very important.
Наталья
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Если есть вопросы - пишите: natali.talk@yandex.ru. Постараюсь всем ответить!
в 40 лет вышла замуж во второй раз, хотели совместного ребенка с мужем, стала пить витамины и фолиевую кислоту,уже потом решила провериться на гормоны...Оказалось АМГ 0,24, ФСГ 15. Начиталась всякого в инете расстроилась, решила, что ВСЕ..но через месяц после результатов на гормоны забеременела! Результат в 41 год родила здорового мальчишку!
Гость
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Girls! Your stories give me hope, even though I'm in a deep depression myself: AMH is only 0.14, FSH 34(((. I'm 39, just got married for the second time, and we really want a baby boy ((((. I got the test results yesterday, haven't told my husband yet, and I already know what the doctors are going to say... I feel sick, girls!
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Девочки, после 3 месяцев противозачаточных препаратов гармоны выровнялись (был очень высокий тестестерон), и АМГ немного подрос, но всё равно всего 0,65. Уже 2 года не могу забеременеть, мне 27 и подумать не могла, что запас уже почти исчерпан(( Ранее ни один врач не назначал сдать этот гармон, я о нем и знать не знала...
Юлия
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Natasha, thank you so much for the hope you've given us))
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Продаю фертинатал две пачки , из Америки 9500за все . Годен до 2017 . В Москве . Jon55422@mail.ru
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Lena, read the topic information - there are many examples of independent pregnancies with AMH levels much lower than yours (for example, mine is 0.08 ng/mL, while the lab's normal range is 1.00-10.60).
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Natalia, which doctor did you see in Saki? My AMH is 0.14, all other indicators are normal. I don't know where to 'run' to now(((((
Гость
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Мы ездили в 2012 г в санаторий Пирогова. Гинеколог - Пипине Ольга Владиславовна или Вячеславовна (не помню)
Марьям
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Всем привет) Подскажите, есть забеременевшие с низким АМГ после лапароскопии яичников (эндометриоидные кисты, эндометриоз)?
Hello everyone, I was also told that my AMH is low (0.955 with a normal range of 0.5-12.6). But my doctor prescribed a supplement called Inofolic. It contains folic acid and vitamin B8.
Екатерина
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1.13 is not that low yet; I once had 0.3, with all other hormones normal, but very few follicles in the ovaries—only 3-5 when the norm is 15. I completed one course of Ovariuм compositum injections. My doctor told me the chances were very slim, and even IVF clinics wouldn't take someone with such low AMH. But a month after the course, I managed to catch ovulation (which wasn't happening every month anymore) and got pregnant. So, everything will work out for you—don't lose hope.
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Наталья
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Наталья, а в каком именно санатории в Саках Вы наблюдалисьи проходили курс лечения?
Ирина
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Я забеременела сама при АМГ 0,6, в 32 года. Наблюдалась у врачей около полугода, сдала кучу анализов - все, что говорили доктора. Эндокринолог в итоге отправил меня к репродуктологу, тот рекомендовал лапароскопию комплексную. И что вы думаете, только там нашли причину - удалили эндометриоз и нашли эндометрит. После лечения взяли биопсию, оказалось что состояние улучшилось, но недолечили до конца все же эндометрит и назначили более жесткий курс и потом ЭКО. И я уже должна была начать готовиться к ЭКО и забеременела случайно, сама!! Лечилась в НИИ Отта в Петербурге, эндокринолог Мишарина, репродуктолог Гзгзян и лечение назначала Джелимханова, так как Гзгзян был в отпуске.
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у меня был АМГ 0.3 в декабре 2014 года, были и другие проблемы, в клинике сказали, что всё, детей никогда не будет, в моём случае ЭКО даст 1% вероятности, очнулась в конце января 2016 от того, что пропали месячные и одновременно "живот полез на нос" и там кто-то шевелился, 5.5 месяцев беременности. Были месячные в первые месяцы, вероятно из за низкого прогестерона. Мне 41 год.
Ладушка
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Девочки, подскажите, есть надежда на беременность с амг=0,14? Врач сказала, что даже на эко не возьмут. Нужно, чтобы хотя бы 2 было для эко. Как можно простимулировать яичники?
Ладушка
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Наталья
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Расскажите .как удалось?
Наталья
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Sweetie, I think I've written everything above. Just to repeat - if you have any questions, write to: natali.talk@yandex.ru. I'll try to answer everyone!
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My AMH is 0.8. I ovulate every month, but I'm not getting pregnant...
Анна
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Наталья
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Наталья, а можно с вами по электронной почте связаться?
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Ма
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Girls, in addition to everything you do, you also need to pray. I know of many cases where there is no hope left and all that remains is to believe in a miracle—and a miracle happens. I also pray, I pray to the Lord God, Matrona of Moscow, the Virgin Mary, Saint Roman the Wonderworker, Joachim and Anna, Xenia of Saint Petersburg, the Most Holy Theotokos before the icon "Unexpected Joy," and here in the comments, I found another one. *** Prayer to conceive a child (read clearly three times, once in a lifetime, then be sure to write it somewhere so others can use it). "Holy Spirit, who resolves all problems, who sheds light on all roads, so that I may reach my goal. You, who give me the Divine gift of forgiveness and forgetting all evil done against me, who remain with me in all the storms of life. In this short prayer, I want to thank You for everything and once again prove that I will never part with You for anything, despite any illusions of matter. I want to abide with You in Your eternal glory. I thank You for all Your blessings to me and my loved ones. I ask You to grant us the chance to become parents of a healthy baby."
Good luck to everyone and God's blessing for the conception of a child!!!
Ма
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Девочки, ко всему что вы делаете ещё нужно молиться. Знаю очень много случаев когда уже нет надежды и остаётся только верить в чудо - и чудо происходит. Я тоже молюсь, молюсь Господу Богу, Матроне Московской, Деве Марии, Преподобному Роману Чудотворцу, Иоакиму и Анне, Ксении Петербургской, Пресвятой Богородице перед иконой "Нечаянная радость", и вот в коментах нашла ещё одну. *** Молитва, чтоб забеременеть (читается четко три раза, один раз в жизни, потом обязательно написать ее где-то, чтоб другие могли воспользоваться). «Святой Дух, решающий все проблемы, проливающий свет на все дороги, что бы я смог прийти к своей цели. Ты, дающий мне Божественный дар прощения и забвения всякого зла. Содеянного против меня, во всех бурях жизни пребывающей со мной. В этой краткой молитве я хочу возблагодарить Тебя за все и еще раз доказать, что я никогда и ни за что не расстанусь с Тобой, несмотря ни на какие иллюзорности материи. Я хочу пребывать с Тобой в твоей вечной славе. Благодарю Тебя за все твои благодеяния ко мне и моим ближним. Прошу тебя даруй шанс стать родителями здорового малыша»
Всем удачи и Божьего благословения на зачатие ребёночка!!!
Наталья
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Of course, if you have any questions, feel free to write to: natali.talk@yandex.ru. I'll do my best to reply to everyone!
Ides
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Girls!!! I'm 29 years old. And I'm in shock. My AMH is less than 0.16, and I just can't hear what the doctors are saying... When they start talking about donor eggs, my ears ring and I can't take in anything else. I'm currently unemployed, so I can't even think about anything additional... All my thoughts are about these scary diagnoses... I want to express my immense gratitude to everyone who is supporting me! I'm a psychologist by training, ready to support everyone in everything, but when it comes to myself, nothing helps... Good luck to everyone and may you have wonderful children!