Vegetovascular dystonia

Nothing helps. Only if you constantly take sedatives. I've seen crowds of doctors, and all the recommendations ultimately boil down to one - take a sedative before a panic attack starts. But how am I supposed to know when it will begin? It happens suddenly. Because of these attacks, I'm afraid to travel on the metro, as I've felt unwell there more than once.

I've had VSD for a year – it's either a consequence of stress or due to cerebral vascular issues. The main thing I've learned over the year of treatment is to seek a good psychotherapist! Psychologists treat only with words, neurologists and psychiatrists with pills. Only a psychotherapist can determine whether you need medication assistance or if you have the strength to fight it on your own. Personally, from my experience, my panic attacks subsided a month after psychotherapy, but the VSD still bothers me. Unfortunately, it's a long and persistent effort.

http://forum.antivsd.ru/ (let your girlfriend study it, and you can go through it together) + Kurpatov's book "The Cure for Vegetative-Vascular Dystonia." Download it right away, print it out, and give it to your girlfriend to read. Just reading this book once is a huge step toward recovery (I'm not joking).

Your girlfriend must have experienced some serious stress, and that's why the autonomic system is acting up.

My daughter is now 22 years old, and she was diagnosed with VSD at 15. Believe me, it's not that scary; you need to take vitamins for the blood vessels. Let her include mint and St. John's wort in her tea.

I used to have panic attacks, went to a psychotherapist, took antidepressants and a mild tranquiliser. It passed... but still, afterwards you have to maintain a healthy lifestyle, exercise and all that.

This cannot be cured, only managed with good sleep, proper nutrition, and walks in the fresh air.
The main thing is not to stress—take some sedatives, or even antidepressants if it's really bad.
My [relative] has been taking them for a couple of months (Pram) and the pills have helped immensely. Before, they couldn't sleep, constantly had headaches, always felt shattered, suffered from persistent depression, and had panic attacks.
Now, touch wood, everything is fine.
Soon, the medication will be discontinued—we'll see how it goes, but the doctor assures that everything will be alright. Of course, the course will likely need to be repeated in a year or two (depending on the condition).
But it's better to live a full life on medication than to suffer without it.

Read this forum. There are many tips on how to get rid of VSD (Vegetative Vascular Dystonia).

http://forum.antivsd.ru/

The Actovegin injections helped me, but I didn't have panic attacks—only migraines.

If she is experiencing panic attacks, she urgently needs to attend psychotherapy sessions. Such issues, as you probably understand, stem from internal problems.

I had panic attacks and autonomic dysfunction, took antidepressants, not sure if they helped or if it was because I started leading a proper lifestyle, sticking to a routine, giving up alcohol, cigarettes, and all-night parties. I began going to bed at 10 p.m., eating healthy food—in short, it's dreary... but there's no other way; as soon as I break this rhythm, it all starts over again.

I read the forum mentioned above (anti-VSD) and started thinking... why does everyone experience a FEAR OF DEATH during panic attacks???? Why specifically the fear of death, and not the fear of something else?? What do you think??

It seems we love ourselves very much, since we're so afraid of losing ourselves))

I am taking motherwort, St John's wort, and magnesium with B6. The panic attacks have decreased, but blood pressure spikes still occur occasionally.

The stress was severe: last year, she was in intensive care with pneumonia, miraculously survived, and witnessed a couple of people die right before her eyes (that was the peak of the flu a year ago). Could this be the aftermath???

Well, of course, it was dreadful stress. And then in the summer, with the heat and breaking up with my boyfriend, this awful thing happened to me in the middle of the night. It got so bad that I couldn't sleep at night without antidepressants, and I started fearing nights and being alone. The psychotherapist only helped with the right medication, but mentally, I'm pulling myself out of it. Kurpatov's books really helped, as mentioned here, just by reading them—make sure to read them (like "The Fear Pill"). Also, yoga and other Eastern exercises have been a great help to me, relaxing the body, along with swimming. And the book said not to hide from fear but to confront it head-on. As soon as I forced myself to do that, I gained a lot of self-respect, and my body responded with improvement. I used to get severe stomach pains from nerves, having to stick to a diet and take medication for months with no results. But after reading the book, when my stomach acted up again, I got angry at my fears and charged straight into them—you won't believe it, the next day my stomach settled down. And we fear death because it's the unknown; that's what we're afraid of. I was scared of nightmares because I didn't know what horror would appear in my dreams at night, but the other day, I went to a feng shui shop and bought a dreamcatcher. Now it's even amusing; I look at it and think, "Well, nightmares, you'll just get caught in it." So, to keep this from dragging on, you have to fight with all your might.

I haven't been cured. But I managed to reduce the condition. Meditation, breathing practices, and SPORT helped!

I cycled every day for one to two hours. And it felt like the VSD had disappeared. At the very least, I strengthened my respiratory system and nervous system through exercise. Read up about cycling and VSD. Doctors recommend that people with this condition cycle.

Then, when I go somewhere, I try to breathe in a certain way. Slowly, deeply, as if the breath is going deep into the abdomen. It's hard to explain. It comes with experience. After all, VSD is a nervous disorder, so relaxed breathing is very important.

And the most important thing—don't stand for too long. If there's an opportunity, I have to sit down, or I might faint. Once, I went to a concert. I was standing in the fan zone and almost lost consciousness. Now I buy tickets for the VIP zone and sit, and everything is fine.

Don't drink alcohol. Although for some, it helps on the contrary. But for me, alcohol is contraindicated.

You could further reduce the amount of meat in your diet. It's better to switch to seafood. And if you wish, become a vegetarian. That helped me too; I've been a vegetarian for two years now, and it's gotten better.

The illness bothers me maybe once a year, or even once every two years.

My sister takes Citramon. However, she got rid of her VSD when she sorted out her nerves. She convinced herself that no one has ever died from VSD, and before that, she had a fear of death; she felt better, and the panic attacks went away. Perhaps self-suggestion might help.

I don't experience a fear of death with my VSD. I just feel unwell and pass out.

You need to find a good psychotherapist. However, it's best not to rely too heavily on medication. For 1-3 courses, you must strictly follow the treatment, and then strictly adhere to the regimen—diet, complete abstinence from alcohol and cigarettes, swimming and fitness, sleep, and daily routine. Massage and a sanatorium are great! And that's it! For minor ailments, you can take Afobazol and vitamins. There are usually seasonal flare-ups as well—during these times, stricter adherence to the regimen is required.

And also, read some useful literature, especially Kurpatov's works.

I was also diagnosed with VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia), the cause - nerves. I used to worry a lot and kept it all bottled up inside. I was stressed initially because of the heat, problems at work, then my husband lost his job, we had a loan to pay, and it all piled up into one big mess. In the end, it hit my digestive system. Terrible stomach pains, unbelievable nausea, and the worst part - uncontrollable diarrhoea at any time, anywhere. It was absolute panic; I was afraid to leave the house, worried it might happen to me in public. But I still had to commute to work, and you can't just stay home all the time (shopping, etc.). During my PA, I had an indescribable terror of soiling myself. It's both laughable and tragic. For four months, I took medication for various gastritis, dysbiosis, and other gut issues. I even ended up in the hospital, where they thoroughly examined me and said my digestive system was fine and I needed to treat my nerves. I bought fluoxetine from the pharmacy and from the first days of taking it, I felt like a human again. I took it for a week, pulled myself together, started doing autogenic training, but I always keep validol in my handbag. If I know I might be in a situation where panic could start, I take validol in advance. It helps a lot. And then the body remembers its calmness in such situations, and the next time it's easier.

Actually, VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia) is a wake-up call that something in our lives isn't right. I used to overindulge in alcohol, smoking, and eating with pleasure. Now I limit myself in many ways and feel better, I've even lost weight. And it's advisable to do sports to let the energy out.

At first, I had a fear of death, and I had no idea what VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia) or anything like that was... I would suddenly feel terrible and already picture myself in a coffin... a nightmare. Then I underwent a full medical examination, and at the hospital, they diagnosed me with VSD, explained what it was, and I went to a psychotherapist. He told me that, in principle, you can't die from it. Then a new obsession appeared: I was afraid of going insane. The panic attacks were so intense that it felt like my brain was about to explode, and all positive emotions were sucked out. I wanted to sob and die. I didn't want anything. I took medication and still do. No alcohol, no cigarettes, no parties, or anything like that.

And all because I dabbled in something forbidden. I pushed it too far. I didn't tell anyone about it because the reaction from those around me was predictable: "IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT." Well, you can all go to... I thought, I don't need lectures, just help me get better. In short, it's all just awful...

Well, my makeup bag is now fully stocked: smelling salts, validol, corvalol, anaprilin. I even thought about squeezing a portable blood pressure monitor in there, but decided that might be overkill...

Every day I have a fear of death, and at the same time, my heart hurts a lot, it feels like it's stopping. There's severe nausea.

Nastya, please give a link to his website or write down the main recommendations. I urgently need it—I'm feeling really bad..

I'll explain how to cure VSD (Vegetative Dystonia Syndrome).

Clever doctors describe VSD in elaborate terms, but (conveniently) forget to mention the cause.

The cause is not physiological, but psycho-energetic.

How to cure it:

1. Your brain's vessels have become overloaded with negative information (fears, unrealistic hopes, etc.). Fill yourself with as much positivity as possible.

2. Kill your fears. There's only one way: spite your fears (take walks alone as much as possible, stay home alone, etc.). Later, you'll laugh at yourself for having been afraid of these things.

3. Shortness of breath and various pains. Absolutely avoid drinking and smoking. If your organs are healthy, then you're causing the shortness of breath and pains yourself, by overthinking. Once you realise this, they'll disappear.

But if your organs are diseased, then treat them.

That's essentially all.

If you become determined and find the strength within yourself, VSD will vanish as if it never existed.

Have you tried visiting what people call "grandmothers" to remove fright? But not through an advertisement, rather on someone's recommendation.

Your text: How well I understand you, I've got the same nonsense going on.

I went to a psychotherapist, took a bunch of tests, and they said there's no depression, but anxiety is elevated. They prescribed Teraligen—has anyone taken it? I bought it and will start taking it, will see how it goes. Currently, I'm taking Mexidol, seems to help.

I'm so fed up with this tachycardia myself... I can wake up because my heart is pounding. Sometimes, the whole day is perfectly fine... One thing I've understood for sure with this ailment is that it's very hard to be left alone!!! You start listening to yourself, checking your pulse—it's just a NIGHTMARE!!! The doctor prescribed Panangin, I'm trying it, but I also want to download a guide "How to cope with panic attacks?" I think that's what it's all about....

Heh, folks, stumbled upon this site by chance, a piece of advice from someone experienced - see a psychiatrist or a psychotherapist and you'll forget about your illnesses, don't delay, the longer you wait without treatment, the worse it gets.

I am 28 years old. After another night out, I had my first attack that lasted a whole day—it felt like my heart was going to stop, and all my limbs were tingling as if they had gone numb. I called an ambulance, they took me, gave me an injection in the backside, and sent me off without really explaining anything, just saying it was alcohol poisoning and that everything was fine. I ended up going two more times, also after day-long parties, and the last time they wrote it off as VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia).

Hello! I sometimes experience shaking, high blood pressure, fear, panic, fear of death... and so on, and my feet are ice-cold! What is this? Could you tell me, could this be vegetative-vascular dystonia???

Hello. I have had VSD since childhood. After giving birth, I experienced panic attacks. But when the first panic attack happened, my husband said it was a curse. So we went to see a psychic. He said that if it had gone on a little longer, I would have ended up in a mental hospital. That really stuck in my head. And then the self-suggestion started! The panic attacks kept recurring. And a constant fear of losing control—such a strong fear! I'm afraid to take medication because I'm breastfeeding my baby. Write about your VSD to Ekaterinaklimenko.klimenko@yandex.ru.

Katya, don't be afraid, everything will be fine for you. You just need to learn to distract yourself, not to get lost in the pain. When it starts for me, I sing songs or start doing something so I don't think about it. I've been to all the hospitals in Saratov, believe me, they won't help you there. You can also go to a psychologist; that helps too.

Can anyone actually suggest something?!

I didn't like Kurpatov's book at all; there's nothing particularly insightful in it. And VSD is a very complex and nasty illness that's hard to get rid of.

It is impossible to completely defeat it.
One can learn to live with it.

First and foremost, you need to change your attitude towards life, which will naturally lead to radical changes in it. If, of course, you're ready for that.

Pills and sedatives don't cure; they only alleviate the attacks. But the attacks are in our hearts and minds. So that's where you need to start.

I myself have gone through a serious journey from near madness to rare instances of quickly passing panic. If you have any questions, write to my email.

I practically don't have VSD attacks anymore, but sometimes when something starts, like thoughts or something else, I immediately distract myself with something. I've taken up cosmetics as an Avon and Oriflame consultant, which also distracts me quite well. However, I just can't gain weight; I've lost a lot, at 167 cm tall, I weigh 44 kg. Does anyone else lose weight with VSD or have they? I was told that until I calm down internally, only then will I start to gain weight. Soon it's March 8th, my husband has booked a table at a café, and I'm afraid to drink. What do you think, can I drink a little with VSD? Some say yes, but only approach alcohol with positive and kind thoughts.

Yulya, I'm 44 years old, and I first fell ill with VSD when I was 21. Always optimistic and sporty with a normal weight, I turned into a twig within a few months. I went through all the circles of hell. How well I understand you and other young girls. It's not so easy to shake off this ailment. I've tried so many medications on myself! Treatment at a sanatorium helped a lot. The results were immediately visible. But we live among people and can't help but react to the outside world. So the nervous system fails again. What I have now—terrible migraines, gynaecological issues (this is also a consequence of VSD), tachycardia when anxious. So get treatment, don't neglect it. Try all methods; the body wears out faster, vitamins are a must! Alcohol strictly and only when you're confident you feel well.

It's not that straightforward. Don't confuse this with autonomic nervous system dysfunction or what the Americans call POTS. For those who read English, here's a link: http://www.dinet.org/pots_an_overview.htm. There is no cure. Symptoms change, if not hourly, then daily. No one knows the cause. Simply put—the blood doesn't go where it should, when it should, to do what it should. And the quantity—blood volume—is low. It's diagnosed with a Tilt Table Test. And most importantly—START TREATMENT WITH THE HEAD. Health is not the absence of disease but a balance of physical and psychological state. A new approach in treatment—BodyTalk—addresses this.

What everyone should do is: drink 2 litres of water every day, increase the amount of salt (sea salt), as this will help increase blood volume; do not confuse it with low iron levels. Take 400-600 mg of elemental magnesium (not oxide). Check your kidney function. Take quercetin and glutathione (expensive) in the form of inhalation or suppositories, significantly increase your intake of Omega-3, and of course, check your vitamin D levels and take up to 7,000 IU daily. There is no treatment for POTS, and the cause is unknown. I take 1/4 of a Valium before going outside, but not every day. Sometimes, I just can't do anything about the anxiety and panic. Practice FIRE BREATH and other yoga breathing (Pranayama). Dysautonomia can be caused by gluten intolerance. Write to me if you have more questions: adventurer_ci@ymail.com

How well I understand you—I absolutely cannot travel standing on a bus; just a couple of stops and that's it—it starts to get stuffy, my vision concentration drops, my palms get sweaty, and I feel myself weakening right before my eyes. That's why I only wait for transport with available seats. It's all quite unpleasant, but one has to adapt... alas...

I'm constantly afraid that it will start somewhere in public; I always want to be at home, where I feel protected. I saw a psychotherapist, and they prescribed a bunch of pills too, but I don't want to take medication—it wears me out, plus there's my osteochondrosis on top of it all. And here I spent half a year treating dysbiosis, and it's all just nerves and more nerves. I'm tired of being sick; I've become a crybaby. I've already forgotten when and where I last went out. I want to, but I'm afraid, so very afraid... It's such a relief to be able to share here with people who understand.

I'm 22, and I'm really scared. I don't know where to seek help; I need it. It's also tough that not everyone around me understands my problem, and sometimes they even joke it off, saying I'm making it all up. But I genuinely can't even stand in a queue at the shop without feeling unwell; it's awful...

Daria, I think you've never fainted in a queue or while standing on public transport, otherwise you would have written about it here. So, what drives you is fear! You need to start by reading literature on this topic, for example, the mentioned Kurpatov. "...it's important to understand that since autonomic reactions always accompany our emotions (particularly and especially fear), fear, anxiety, and panic only intensify these symptoms: we tense up, and as a result, our body's organs tense up too—primarily the heart and blood vessels. Therefore, by fearing autonomic attacks, we only provoke and worsen the symptoms of our own autonomic discomfort." And I recommend rereading his other books; in short, all our illnesses start in the head, so that's what you should focus on first.

I have fainted, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60; they gave me caffeine. This happened to me when I was 13, I just suddenly felt unwell on the street...

So that means you underwent an examination but didn't start treatment, why is that? And how can you compare changes in your condition if you don't try different options? Or look for a better psychotherapist, even within the same neurosis clinic. The key is not just to live in fear but to take action, read, and try things out.

Here's what Kurpatov says about it: "Fearing physical ailments is unjustified – here, as they say, neither tears nor, especially, anxiety will help the matter. All living organisms get sick, suffer, and die. That's life. Our task is merely to take the necessary measures in time to prevent these illnesses (i.e., to maintain a proper lifestyle), and after they appear, to take steps so that the illness doesn't rush to 'settle scores with us,' i.e., to undergo the treatment that medicine has deemed most effective in such cases."

Wishing you and your loved ones success and patience.