Vegetative-vascular dystonia

Nothing helps. Only if you constantly take sedatives. I've seen crowds of doctors, and all the recommendations ultimately boil down to one—take a sedative before a panic attack starts. But how am I supposed to know when it will begin? It happens suddenly. Because of the attacks, I'm afraid to ride the subway since I've felt unwell there more than once.

I've had VSD for a year - it's either a consequence of stress or due to cerebrovascular issues. The main thing I've learned over the year of treatment is to seek a good psychotherapist! Psychologists treat only with words, neurologists and psychiatrists with pills. Only a psychotherapist can determine whether you need medication assistance or if you have the strength to fight it on your own. Personally, from my experience, my panic attacks subsided a month after psychotherapy, but the VSD still bothers me. Unfortunately, this is a long and persistent effort.

http://forum.antivsd.ru/ (let your girlfriend study it, and you can join her) + Kurpatov's book "The Remedy for Vegetative-Vascular Dystonia." Download it right away, print it, and hand it to your girlfriend to read. Just reading this book once is a huge step toward recovery (I'm not joking).

Your girlfriend must have experienced some serious stress, and that's why the autonomic system is acting up.

My daughter is now 22 years old, and she was diagnosed with VSD at 15. Believe me, it's not that scary; you need to take vitamins for the blood vessels. Let her include mint and St. John's wort in her tea.

I had panic attacks, went to a psychotherapist, took antidepressants and a mild tranquilizer. It passed... but still, afterwards you have to maintain a healthy lifestyle, exercise and all that.

This is not curable, it can only be managed. Good sleep, proper nutrition, and walks in the fresh air are key.

Most importantly, don't stress—take some sedatives, or even antidepressants if things are really bad.

My person has been taking them for a couple of months (Pram) and the pills have helped immensely. Before, they couldn't sleep, constantly had headaches, always felt exhausted, suffered from persistent depression, and had panic attacks.

Now, knock on wood, everything is fine.

Soon, the medication will be discontinued—we'll see how it goes, but the doctor assures that everything will be okay. Of course, the course will likely need to be repeated in a year or two (depending on the condition).

But it's better to live a full life on medication than to suffer without it.

Read this forum. There are many tips on how to get rid of VSD (Vegetative Vascular Dystonia).

http://forum.antivsd.ru/

Actovegin injections helped me, but I didn't have panic attacks—only migraines.

If she is having panic attacks, she urgently needs to attend psychotherapy sessions. As you probably understand, such things stem from internal issues.

I had panic attacks and autonomic dysfunction, took antidepressants, not sure if they helped or if it was because I started living a healthier lifestyle, sticking to a routine, giving up alcohol, cigarettes, and all-night parties. I began going to bed at 10 PM, eating proper food—basically, it's dreary... but there's no other way; as soon as I break this rhythm, everything starts all over again.

I read the forum mentioned above (anti-VSD) and started thinking... why does everyone with panic attacks experience FEAR OF DEATH???? Why specifically fear of death, and not fear of something else?? What do you think??

It seems we love ourselves so much that we're afraid of losing ourselves))

I'm taking motherwort, St. John's wort, and magnesium with B6. The panic attacks have decreased, but I still experience blood pressure spikes.

The stress was intense: last year, she was in intensive care with pneumonia, miraculously survived, and witnessed a couple of people die right before her eyes (this was during the peak of the flu a year ago). Could this be the aftermath?

Well, of course, it was terrible stress. And then in the summer, with the heat and breaking up with my boyfriend, this awful thing happened to me in the middle of the night. It got so bad that I couldn't sleep at night without antidepressants, and I started fearing nights and being alone. The psychotherapist only helped with the right medication, but mentally, I'm pulling myself out of it. Kurpatov's books really helped, as mentioned here, just by reading them—make sure to read them (like "The Fear Pill"). Also, yoga and other Eastern exercises have been a great help for me—they relax the body, along with swimming. And the book said not to hide from fear but to face it head-on. As soon as I forced myself to do that, I gained a lot of self-respect, and my body responded with improvement. I used to get severe stomachaches from nerves and had to stick to a diet and take medication for months, all to no avail. But after reading the book, when my stomach acted up again, I got angry at my fears and charged straight at them—you won't believe it, but the next day, my stomach settled down. We fear death because it's the unknown—that's what we're afraid of. I was scared of nightmares because I didn't know what horror would appear in my dreams at night, but the other day, I went to a feng shui store and bought a dreamcatcher. Now it's even funny—I look at it and think, "Go ahead, nightmares, get caught in it." So, to keep this from dragging on, you have to fight with all your might.

I haven't been cured. But I managed to reduce the condition. Meditation, breathing practices, and SPORTS helped!

I rode a bicycle every day for one to two hours. And it felt like the VSD (Vegetative Vascular Dystonia) disappeared. At the very least, I strengthened my respiratory system and nervous system through sports. Read about cycling and VSD. Doctors recommend that people with this condition ride a bike.

Additionally, when I go somewhere, I try to breathe in a specific way. Slowly, deeply, as if the breath is going deep into the abdomen. It's hard to explain. It comes with experience. After all, VSD is a nervous system disorder, so relaxed breathing is very important.

And the most important thing—don't stand for too long. If there's an opportunity, I sit down, or else I might faint. Once, I went to a concert. I was standing in the fan zone and almost lost consciousness. Now I buy tickets for the VIP zone, sit, and everything is fine.

Don't drink alcohol. Although for some, it helps instead. But for me, alcohol is contraindicated.

You could further reduce the amount of meat in your diet. It's better to switch to seafood. And if you want, become a vegetarian. That helped me too; I've been a vegetarian for two years now, and it's gotten better.

The illness bothers me maybe once a year, or even once every two years.

My sister takes Citramon. But she got rid of VSD when she sorted out her nerves. She convinced herself that no one has ever died from VSD, and before that, she had a fear of death; she felt better, and the panic attacks went away. Perhaps self-suggestion will help.

I don't have a fear of death with VSD. I just feel unwell and pass out.

"HELLO EVERYONE! NEED ADVICE ON HOW TO GET RID OF VSD! MY CLOSEST FRIEND (43 YEARS OLD) WAS DIAGNOSED WITH THIS. SO FAR, NO DOCTOR HAS PROVIDED A SENSIBLE TREATMENT PLAN—THE PSYCHOTHERAPIST SUGGESTED TREATMENT IN A NEUROSIS DEPARTMENT, THE NEUROLOGIST SOMETHING ELSE, THE NEUROPATHOLOGIST A THIRD OPTION... MY FRIEND IS A LIFELONG OPTIMIST, HER FAMILY LIFE IS GREAT, SHE DOESN'T WORK, AND SUDDENLY PANIC ATTACKS STARTED, AND NOW SHE CAN'T SLEEP. PLEASE ADVISE, HAS ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION AND RECOVERED? THANKS IN ADVANCE!"

You need to find a good psychotherapist. But it's not advisable to rely too much on medication. For 1-3 courses, you must strictly follow everything, and then strictly adhere to the regimen—diet, complete abstinence from alcohol and cigarettes, swimming and fitness, sleep, daily routine. Massage and a sanatorium are great! And that's it! For minor ailments, you can take Afobazol and vitamins. There are usually seasonal flare-ups—during these times, you need to follow the regimen even more diligently.

And also, read some useful literature, especially Kurpatov's works.

I was also diagnosed with VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia), the cause is nerves. I used to worry a lot and kept it all bottled up inside. I was stressed first because of the heat, problems at work, then my husband lost his job, we had a loan to pay, and it all piled up into one big mess. In the end, it hit my digestive system. Terrible stomach pains, unbearable nausea, and the worst part—uncontrollable diarrhea at any time, anywhere. It's pure panic; I'm afraid to leave the house, worried it might happen to me in public. But I still have to go to work, and you can't just stay home all the time (shopping, etc.). During my PA, I had an indescribable fear of shitting myself. It's both funny and tragic. For four months, I took medication for gastritis, dysbiosis, and other gut issues. I even ended up in the hospital, where they thoroughly examined me and said my digestive system was fine and I needed to treat my nerves. I bought fluoxetine from the pharmacy and felt human again from the first days of taking it. I took it for a week, pulled myself together, started practicing autogenic training, but I always keep validol in my purse. If I know I might be in a situation where panic could start, I take validol in advance. It helps a lot. Then, the body remembers its calmness in such situations, and the next time it's easier.

Actually, VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia) is a wake-up call that something in life isn't right. I used to overindulge in alcohol, smoking, and eating with pleasure. Now I limit myself in many ways and feel better, I've even lost weight. And it's advisable to exercise to release energy.

At first, I had a fear of death, and I had no idea what VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia) or anything like that was... I would suddenly feel terrible and already picture myself in a coffin... a nightmare. Then I underwent a full medical examination, and at the hospital, they diagnosed me with VSD, explained what it was, and I went to a psychotherapist. He told me that, in principle, you can’t die from it. Then a new obsession appeared: I was afraid of going insane. The panic attacks were so intense that it felt like my brain was about to explode, and all positive emotions were sucked out. I wanted to sob and die. I didn’t want anything. I took medication and still do. No alcohol, no cigarettes, no parties, nothing.

And all because I dabbled in something forbidden. I took it too far. I didn’t tell anyone about it because the reaction from those around me was predictable: IT’S YOUR OWN FAULT. Well, you can all go to... I thought, I don’t need your lectures, just help me get better. In short, it’s all just awful...

Well, my makeup bag is now fully stocked: smelling salts, validol, corvalol, anaprilin. I even thought about squeezing a portable blood pressure monitor in there, but then I thought that might be overkill...

Every day I have a fear of death, and at the same time, my heart hurts a lot, it feels like it's stopping. I have severe nausea.

Nastya, please give a link to his website or write down the main recommendations. I urgently need it—I'm feeling really bad..

I'll explain how to cure VSD (Vegetative Dystonia Syndrome).

Smart doctors describe VSD beautifully, but (accidentally) forget to mention the cause.

The cause is not physiological, but psycho-energetic.

How to cure it:

1. Your brain vessels have become overloaded with negative information (fears, unjustified hopes, etc.). Fill yourself with as much positivity as possible.

2. Kill your fears. There's only one way—do the opposite of what your fear tells you (take walks alone as much as possible, stay home alone, etc.). Later, you'll laugh at yourself for having been afraid of these things.

3. Shortness of breath and various pains. Absolutely avoid drinking and smoking. If your organs are healthy, the shortness of breath and pains are something you create yourself, by overthinking. Once you realize this, they will disappear.

But if your organs are sick, then treat them.

That's essentially all.

If you become determined and find the strength within yourself, VSD will vanish as if it never existed.

Have you tried going to what people call "grandmothers" to remove fright? But not through an advertisement, but on someone's recommendation.

Your textI understand you so well, I have the same nonsense.

I went to a psychotherapist, took a bunch of tests, and they said there's no depression, but anxiety is elevated. They prescribed Teraligen. Has anyone taken it? I bought it and will start taking it, and see how it goes. Currently, I'm taking Mexidol, and it seems to be helping.

I'm so fed up with this tachycardia myself... I can wake up from my heart pounding. Sometimes the whole day is completely fine... One thing I've understood for sure with this condition is how hard it is to be alone!!! You start listening to yourself, measuring your pulse—it's just a NIGHTMARE!!! The doctor prescribed Panangin, I'm trying it, but I also want to download the guide "How to Deal with Panic Attacks?" I think that's what it's all about....

Heh, folks, stumbled upon this site by chance, a piece of advice from someone experienced—see a psychiatrist or psychotherapist and you'll forget about your illnesses. Don't delay; the longer you wait without treatment, the worse it gets.

I'm 28 years old. After another night out, I had my first attack that lasted a whole day—it felt like my heart was going to stop, and all my limbs were tingling as if they'd fallen asleep. I called an ambulance, they took me, gave me a shot in the butt, and sent me off without really explaining anything, just said it was alcohol poisoning and that I was fine. Then I went two more times, also after day-long parties, and the last time they wrote it off as VSD (vegetative-vascular dystonia).

Hello! I sometimes shake, my blood pressure rises, I experience fear, panic, fear of death... etc., and my feet are icy! What is this? Could it be vegetative-vascular dystonia???

Hello. I've had VSD since childhood. After giving birth, I experienced panic attacks. But when the first panic attack happened, my husband said it was a curse. So we went to see a psychic. He said that if it had gone on a little longer, I would have ended up in a mental hospital. That really stuck in my head. And then the self-suggestion started! The panic attacks kept recurring. And there was this constant fear of losing control—such a strong fear! I'm afraid to take medication because I'm breastfeeding my baby. Write about your VSD to Ekaterinaklimenko.klimenko@yandex.ru.

Katya, don't be afraid, everything will be fine for you. You just need to learn to distract yourself, not to get lost in the pain. When it starts for me, I sing songs or start doing something so I don't think about it. I've been to all the hospitals in Saratov, believe me, they won't help you there. You can also go to a psychologist—that helps too.

Can someone please give me a hint after all?!

I really didn't like Kurpatov's book at all; there's nothing particularly insightful in it. And VSD is a very complex and nasty illness that's hard to get rid of.

It is impossible to completely defeat it.
You can learn to live with it.

First and foremost, you need to change your attitude towards life, which will naturally lead to radical changes in it. If you are truly ready for that, of course.

Pills and sedatives don't cure; they only alleviate the attacks. But the attacks are in our heart and mind. So that's where you need to start.

I myself have gone through a serious journey from near madness to rare instances of quickly passing panic. If you have questions, write to my email.

I practically don't have VSD attacks anymore, but sometimes when something starts, like thoughts or something else, I immediately distract myself with something. I've taken up cosmetics as an Avon and Oriflame consultant, and it's such a good distraction. The only thing is, I can't gain weight no matter what; I've lost a lot, at 167 cm tall, I weigh 44 kg. Does anyone else lose weight with VSD or have they? I was told that I won't gain weight until I calm down internally, only then will I start to put on weight. (Soon it's March 8th, my husband reserved a table at a cafe, and I'm afraid to drink alcohol.) What do you think, can I drink a little with VSD? Some say yes, but only approach alcohol with positive, good thoughts.

Yulya, I'm 44 years old, and I first got VSD when I was 21. Always optimistic and athletic with a normal weight, I turned into a skeleton within a few months. I went through hell and back. I understand you and other young girls so well. It's not easy to shake off this illness. I've tried so many medications on myself! Treatment at a sanatorium helped a lot. The results were immediately visible. But we live among people and can't help but react to the outside world. So the nervous system fails again. What I have now: terrible migraines, gynecological issues (also a consequence of VSD), and tachycardia when I'm anxious. So get treatment, don't neglect it. Try all methods; the body wears out faster—vitamins are a must! Alcohol strictly, and only when you're sure you're feeling well.

It's not that simple. Don't confuse this with autonomic nervous system dysfunction or what Americans call POTS. For those who read English, here's a link: http://www.dinet.org/pots_an_overview.htm. There is no cure. Symptoms change, if not hourly then daily. No one knows the cause. Simply put—blood doesn't go where it should, when it should, to do what it should. And the quantity—blood volume—is low. It's diagnosed with a Tilt Table Test. MOST IMPORTANTLY—START TREATMENT WITH THE HEAD. Health is not the absence of disease but a balance of physical and psychological state. A new approach in treatment—BodyTalk—addresses this.

What everyone should do is: drink 2 liters of water every day, increase the amount of salt (sea salt), which will help increase blood volume; do not confuse this with low iron levels. Take 400-600 mg of elemental magnesium (not oxide). Check your kidney function. Take quercetin and glutathione (expensive) in the form of inhalation or suppositories, significantly increase your intake of Omega-3, and of course, check your vitamin D levels and take up to 7,000 IU daily. There is no treatment for POTS, and the cause is unknown. I take 1/4 of a Valium before going outside, but not every day. Sometimes I just can't do anything about the anxiety and panic. Practice FIRE BREATH and other yoga breathing (Pranayama). Dysautonomia can be caused by gluten intolerance. Write to me if you have more questions: adventurer_ci@ymail.com

I understand you so well; I can't ride standing on the bus at all, just a couple of stops and that's it—it starts to get stuffy, my vision concentration drops, my palms get sweaty, and I feel like I'm weakening right before my eyes, so I only wait for transport with available seats. It's all terrible, but I have to adapt... alas..

I'm constantly afraid it will start somewhere in public; I always want to be at home, where I feel protected. I saw a psychotherapist, and they prescribed a bunch of pills too, but I don't want to take medication—it wears me out, plus there's my osteochondrosis. On top of that, I spent half a year treating dysbiosis, and it's all just nerves and more nerves. I'm tired of being sick; I've become a crybaby. I've already forgotten when and where I used to go. I want to, but I'm afraid, so very afraid... It's such a relief to be able to share here with people who understand.

I'm 22, and I'm really scared. I don't know where to seek help, I need it. It's also bad that not everyone around me understands my problem, and sometimes they even joke it off, like I'm making it all up. But I really can't even stand in line at the store; I start feeling awful, it's terrible....

Daria, I think you've never fainted in a queue or while standing in public transport, otherwise you would have written about it here. So, what drives you is fear! You need to start by reading literature on this topic, like the mentioned Kurpatov, for example. "...it's important to understand that since autonomic reactions always accompany our emotions (particularly and especially fear), fear, anxiety, and panic only intensify these symptoms: we tense up, and as a result, our body's organs tense up too—primarily the heart and blood vessels. Therefore, by fearing autonomic attacks, we only provoke and worsen the symptoms of our own autonomic discomfort." And I recommend rereading his other books; in short, all our illnesses start in the head, so that's what you should focus on first.

I have fainted, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60; they gave me caffeine. This happened to me when I was 13, I just suddenly felt unwell on the street...

So that means you underwent an examination but didn't start treatment, why is that? How can you compare changes in your condition if you don't try different options? Or look for a better psychotherapist, even within the same neurosis clinic. The key is not just to live in fear but to take action, read, and try things.

Here's what Kurpatov says about it: "Fearing physical ailments is unjustified – here, as they say, neither tears nor, especially, anxiety will help the matter. All living organisms get sick, suffer, and die. That's life. Our task is merely to take necessary measures in time to prevent these illnesses (i.e., maintain a proper lifestyle), and after they appear, take steps so that the disease doesn't rush to 'settle scores with us,' i.e., undergo the treatment that medicine has deemed most effective in such cases."

Wishing you and your loved ones success and patience.